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Vegas shooting prompts gun laws debate

Shooter obtained weapons legally
Posted at 7:09 PM, Oct 03, 2017
and last updated 2017-10-03 20:09:32-04

CLAYCOMO, Mo. — Tim Davis fired rounds from a handgun at a paper target Tuesday at Show Me Shooters Indoor Range in Claycomo, Missouri.

On Sunday night, the Las Vegas shooter's targets were people, not paper.

And he used different weapons, some of them modified to shoot like a fully automatic machine gun.

Fully automatic guns, which continue to fire bullets as long as the trigger is pulled, are illegal to possess except in rare circumstances.

"I don't think the restrictions should be on firearms, they should be on people," said firearms trainer Don Pind. "And we have plenty of checks on it and I don't think there's any way you're going to cure it," he said referring to the Las Vegas violence.

Pind, who's also a former law enforcement officer, showed the 41 Action News Investigators semi-automatic weapons for sale at Show Me Shooters Indoor Range.

Those firearms are similar to what police say the Las Vegas shooter used.

But according to multiple reports, those firearms were modified to shoot bullets more quickly.

Pind says banning or restricting those types of weapons is not the answer to stopping mass shootings.

When the 41 Action News Investigators asked Pind if there's a place where the line should be drawn in terms of restricting public use of firearms he said, "I don't know... really not, no."

"Give law enforcement some tools to look at this, I don't think that's a major imposition," said former FBI agent Michael Tabman.

He has a different take on the gun debate.

Tabman believes limiting access to what he calls weapons of mass murder would be helpful to law enforcement.

"Every obstacle we put in place to keep someone from getting a weapon of mass destruction, a weapon of mass killing gives us another opportunity," he said.

According to police, the Las Vegas shooter had 23 weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the hotel rooms where he opened fire.

Tabman believes amounts of weapons and ammunition purchases should be closely monitored.

"Just put some controls so we know who's getting them, we can do some background work, stop stockpiling ammunition, at least be able to ask some questions," he said.

But Pind says he's carried more firearms in his truck than the shooter had at the hotel.

"If I'm going to a shoot or going to do a class," he said. "You're going to find that most people who enjoy shooting enjoy different types which takes different types of firearms," Pind says.

Laws vary from state to state and also city to city.

Federal law applies to everyone.

Kansas Congressman Kevin Yoder, a Republican and KCMO Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, a Democrat, largely hold their party's positions on gun laws.

Yoder generally opposes additional restrictions.

In a statement on the shooting, he said, "As details begin to emerge about the attack in Las Vegas, we will have a better idea of what action can be taken to prevent something like this from happening again. Congress can certainly continue to improve laws with regard to mental health. It's also likely the murderer broke multiple gun laws already on the books, so finding out if there is a way to better enforce existing laws will certainly be a part of the solution."

Cleaver supports reform.

Last year, he participated in a sit-in with other congressional Democrats designed to force a vote on gun control.

Cleaver supports what he calls common sense gun reform to save lives.